【云德访谈】精英律师院长说访谈系列范军田——做“跨界”的精英律师

本期嘉宾——范军田

范军田，英国陕西经贸文化促进会会长，英国陕西经贸文化促进会是陕西省商务厅海外英国（伦敦）商务代表处、陕西省工商联暨陕西总商会英国商务代表处、铜川市贸促会英国代表处，西安外事委员会英国工作站，范军田会长还是陕西省第八届人民对外友好协会海外理事。

Fan Juntian, the President of Shaanxi Economic and Cultural Promotion Association, chief representative of the Shaanxi Department of Commerce Overseas British (London) Commercial Representative office, Shaanxi Federation of Industry and Commerce and Shaanxi General Chamber of Commerce UK Commercial Representative Office, Tongchuan Council for the Promotion of International Trade UK Representative Office, director of Xi 'an Foreign affairs Committee British workstation, Shaanxi Eighth People's Association for friendship with foreign countries Overseas council members.

Q：范会长，您好！感谢您来参加云德律师学院首届院长论坛，今天参加这个论坛，请您谈一下感受？

Q: President Fan, Thanks for coming to the First Dean's Forum of Yunde Law School, could you share your feelings with us.

A：大家好，我是范军田，长期在英国工作生活。非常感谢云德律所邀请我参加今天的论坛。在我认识当中，法律就是一把利剑，高高悬挂，时时警惕人们的一切社会行为的法制化。谈及对律师的印象，欧洲发展主要是法治的规范行为结果，在见到律师的时候，第一印象，你会产生这就是社会的精英阶层，是价值观、社会秩序以及一切社会行为的缔造者与捍卫者，讲到素质和素养，律师是典范，言谈举止就是综合素养的体现，我是非常尊重律师的。云德律师学院除了专业教育以外，把一些综合素质教育、社会礼仪技能、行为规范等融入到课程中，我认为这是一个创新。

A: Hello, I'm Fan Juntian. I have been working and living in the UK for a long time. Thanks very much for inviting me to this forum. In my mind, the Law is a sword, hanging high in the air. Talking about impression of lawyers, mainly in Europe is the rule of law norms, when seeing a lawyer, a first impression, you could think that is the social elite level, the values, social order and all of the founders of the social behavior, when it comes to quality and accomplishment, a lawyer is model, manners is the embodiment of the comprehensive qualities, I am very respect for law. I think it is an innovation that Yunde Law School has integrated some quality education and social education into its curriculum.

Q：您作为英国陕西经贸文化促进会会长，陕西与英国之间的关系及合作模式是怎样的呢？请您简单介绍一下。

Q: As the President of Shaanxi Economic and Cultural Promotion Association, what is the relationship and cooperation model between Shaanxi and the UK? Please give us a brief introduction.

A：陕西在英国大概2000多人，基本都是在非常好的大学、金融机构、科研机构、律所等就职，陕西人在英国的影响力是非常大的，综合素质非常高，这个资源希望陕西一定要用好。比如我们英国陕西经贸文化促进会的理事们主要就涉及了四个板块，金融、建筑科技、教育文化、培训交流等。陕西要做国际化大都市，如何去做？这是我们面前值得思考的问题，首先，一定要“请进来”、“走出去”。我们这两三年做了很多这方面的工作，首先是陕西“走出去”积极宣传陕西推介陕西招才引智，接下来“请进来”也很重要，汲取和借鉴西方的一些先进经验。大家都知道伦敦金融城，这是欧洲的金融中心，所以我们一带一路的起点是西安，终点是伦敦，我们缔结了伦敦克罗伊登市和伦敦金融城与西安市缔结友好城市，在金融、科技、教育、创意产业领域进行交流合作，促进西安向国际化大都市发展的历程，通过这两年的运作，我们所做的工作也得到了省委省政府的认可。

A: There are more than 2,000 people from Shaanxi province living in the UK, mostly work in excellent universities research institutes and law firm and Shaanxi province has a great influence in the UK. How Shaanxi province to be a national metropolis? This is a question for us, we must let foreigners to "come in" and "go out". In the past two or three years, we have done a lot of work. First, Shaanxi "went out", and then "come in" is also very important. As you all know, the city of London is the financial center of Europe, so our One Belt And One Road starts from XI 'AN and ends in London. We have established a sister city between the city of London and XI 'AN to conduct exchanges and cooperation in the financial field.

Q：您作为常年生活在国外的华人，对于云德律所及云德律师学院的发展，有什么建议呢？

Q: As a Chinese living abroad, do you have any suggestions for the development of Yunde Law Firm and the Yunde Law School?

A：首先，今天的主题是平凡到卓越，何为卓越？我们的基础理论，大学教育部分，校企联合是非常重要的，校有束缚性，但是企有他的灵活性，在符合国家规定的情况下，如何进行校企合作，来培养学生的综合素质，从理论到实践相结合，这才是有用性的人才。第二，给云德律所一个建议，不能认为我们就是一个律师事务所而局限在法律行业，外国律师事务所就不仅仅是律师事务所，国外的较大型律师事务所中一定要有建筑工程师、理科工程师、化学工程师、测量师、会计师以及精算师等，律师事务所未来不仅仅是在律师行业拓展，是要多领域全方位发展，业务涵盖企业重组、企业并购以及企业的转型和升级等等方面来做，我们希望未来云德律师事务所欧洲办公室多方面涉足，并填充多种资源，为英陕之间企业交流合作保驾护航，使英陕之间的交流通过企业来落地。

A: First of all, from ordinary to extraordinary, what is excellence? Our basic theory, part of university education, school-enterprise cooperation is very important, the university has constraints, but the enterprise has its flexibility, in accordance with the state regulations, how to conduct school-enterprise cooperation, to cultivate students' comprehensive quality, from theory to practice, this is useful talent. Second, give a suggestion for the Yunde Law Firms, don't think you are a law firm and limitation in the legal profession, is not only a foreign law firm is a law firm, in foreign law firms must have a structural engineer, science engineers, chemical engineers, surveyors and actuaries, the future is not just a lawyer industry development, the law firm is to many areas, including corporate restructuring, mergers and acquisitions, as well as the transformation and development of the enterprise, etc, we hope that the future the Yunde Law Firms many aspects involved in Europe, and filling in a lot of resources, make the communication between the Shaanxi Province and London.

Q：谢谢范会长。

Q：Thank you, President Fan!